In the comments following one of the blogs contributing writers made a reference to Bush getting teary eyed at Auschwitz in comparison to Hillary’s crying last week. This writer would be Kevin. kvn.blogspot.com
He placed a link in his comment that takes you to the Huffington Post where they have an article describing how Bush had to hold back tears while visiting a holocaust memorial. In my mind Bushs reaction was one out of genuine mourning and also grief and guilt that America had not done more to prevent the holocaust. I’ve seen Bush do this at Walter Reed while visiting our wounded, at times when addressing their families also and also in his speech right after 911 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20080111/bush-israel-holocaust/
Kevins response to Bushs emotional display was as follows.
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Kevin said, on January 11th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
Unfortunately it doesn’t work for Bush, who went all Emo because we didn’t bomb Auschwitz.
Waaaah, I’m wearing a Yarmulke, waaaah
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20080111/bush-israel-holocaust/
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What needs to work for Bush ? If Kevin had half a brain instead of being so hard up to make a joke or some point of irony and grab some attention he would realize that Bush has no reason or ulterior motives for his display. He is not up for re-election now is he ? He doesnt need photo ops any more than Eskimos need ice.
I thought this remark was pretty insensitive. Comparing the tears of Hillary crying over her candidacy to the tears of a man mourning and grieving the slaughter of 6,000,000 holocaust victims is not only disgusting, it is about as cheap and low as I’ve seen anyone go.The last time I got this mad was when I saw a man beat his pregnant wife on the sidewalk. I returned the favor by kicking him down the same sidewalk until he fell in the gutter. The cops came, cuffed me, took me around the corner, let me go and gave me 10 bucks for lunch. Said it was the coolest thing they’ve ever seen.
I responded to Kevin with confrontational bewilderment over him making light of what is a very serious episode in our history. Which by the way I’ll explain later how the holocaust is very relevant to todays war on terror. I asked him as follows;
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micky2 said, on January 11th, 2008 at 3:14 pm
Hey kevin ! You got any relatives with concentration camp tattoos ?
I DO !
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His reply was even more tasteless than his original comment.
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Kevin said, on January 11th, 2008 at 3:20 pm
No Micky, but I do have relatives with unsightly skin blemishes, and they are just as embarrassing.
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This is where I snapped
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micky2 said, on January 11th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
Hey you fucking punk !
Lets get one thing straight ! I come here to have fun.
But I will not tolerate some arrogant snot fuck punk belittling my relatives who were beaten, tattoed, and jailed by Nazis.
Go find some humor in something REALLY funny.
If anything is embarrassing its your pathetic insensitivity, stupidity, and lack of resourcefulness when it comes to finding things to joke about.
Grow up an realize there are just some things you should not say or do to the wrong people.
One of the most disgusting episodes in the history of man should never ever be used to get your cheap stupid ass a laugh.
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Now, I am the one to bring family into this first. But it was “my” family. And I did it only with the intent of explaining the reason for my position. At this point my mom and granmas humility, horror, evil abuse had been brought down to the level of a simple minded fuck who was embarrassed by his relatives bad complexion. Kevin was asserting that I should suck it up and deal with it as relativly small problem such as zits. My mom and granmas tragedy had been trivialized just for some punks amusement. And his vain attempts to make people laugh.
Well..
Not if I could help it.
Bagel, who runs the blog tried to put some ice on the situation.And yes I’ve said some horrid things in humor, but not about anyones loved ones.
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bagel of everything said, on January 11th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
“micky: back off, man. you’ve said some pretty horrid things around here yourself. When kevin told me about it earlier, privately, he said “if you bomb Auschwitz, aren’t you bombing the Jews inside too?”
So there”
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At this point I thought maybe I should back off and let things come down, and that they would. I figured it was just a horrible joke gone even more horrible, and to just let it go.
But then came Kevins next statement.
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Kevin said, on January 11th, 2008 at 4:00 pm
“I said that in a hopeful tone though bagel.”
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I wasnt sure how to take that so I just played the high road and gave it the benefit of the doubt that his “hopefulness” was a good hopefulness, and apologized on the belief that Kevin was backing off a little.
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The next few comments really had no context to the matter so I’ll skip down to the next most important parts.
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micky2 said, on January 11th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
Yea , I read the part kevin referenced and a little more. Where it mentions the 1.5 million innocent kids killed.
Whats offensive about Bush being remorseful that we didnt do more ?
micky: if you still have some anger towards kevin, we have a thread devoted to it:
http://rationreality.com/2007/08/18/straight-womans-guide-to-bedding-a-gay-man/#comments
Kevin !
Are you out of your fucking mind ?
What are you ? Trying to be funny again ?
Or Achmed Amamdingdongs conjoined twin ?
Who knew Jewish holocaust survivors were so touchy? Jesus Chris
Just crucify why don’t ya!?
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Keywork is a decent guy whos blog I visit for recreational blogging just as I do at RR. I’ve even had the pleasure of speaking to him in person . https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=4198600931710684031&postID=7866101986026659937 I only request live conversations from bloggers I meet whom I think are truly good people.
At this point I was genuinely upset. I doubt anyone could tell just how much by looking at a monitor and some print. For decorum sake I think Bagel moved this fight over to another thread.
http://rationreality.com/2007/08/18/straight-womans-guide-to-bedding-a-gay-man/#comments
Kevin.
In the interest of walking my talk my conscience has made me realize that I should apologize for the “fag” comment. For me to get indignant over what I perceived as an insensitive remark, I myself was insensitive. I have a temper and like all of us it got the best of me yesterday. The lessons from the holocaust should be that tolerance and acceptance of all regardless of race creed or sexual orientation is the order of the day.
I went against my own principles based on that and I apologize.
Have a good weekend and I hope we can get together on better terms sometime in the near future.
We know each other a little better now, and that is the key ingredient needed in order for people to get along.
Once again, sorry dude. :-).
It’s easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for todayImagine there’s no countries
It isn’t hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peaceYou may say that I’m a dreamer
But I’m not the only one
I hope someday you’ll join us
And the world will be as oneImagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the worldYou may say that I’m a dreamer
But I’m not the only one
I hope someday you’ll join us
And the world will live as one
“Yet the victor wasn’t any of these Cold War combatants. Instead, it was a movement with an equally powerful ideology: the Muslim Brotherhood. Founded in 1920s Egypt as a social-reform movement, the Brotherhood became the fountainhead of political Islam, which calls for the Muslim religion to dominate all aspects of life. A powerful force for political change throughout the Muslim world, the Brotherhood also inspired some of the deadliest terrorist movements of the past quarter century, including Hamas and al Qaeda.”
“Gerhard von Mende’s interest in Muslims originated in 1919, when his father was murdered. The family had lived in Riga, part of a once-large German minority in Latvia. When the tiny land was invaded by the Red Army at the end of World War I, members of the bourgeoisie were rounded up and sent on a forced march. Mr. von Mende’s father, a banker, was pulled out of the line and shot dead.”
“Mr. Namangani had come from a long line of imams in his native land, modern-day Uzbekistan. But his religious service had mostly been in an unholy organization: Hitler’s infamous SS. According to an autobiographical sketch he gave German authorities, he had been arrested by Stalin’s security forces in 1941 and soon after liberated by the invading German army. He served as imam in various capacities, ending as imam for an SS division. He won some of Germany’s highest commendations, including the Iron Cross.”
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http://www.mideastnewswire.com/archive/me_nc_islamists.html
Islam’s Nazi Connections
By Serge Trifkovic
FrontPageMagazine.com | December 5, 2002
An essay adapted by Robert Locke from Dr. Serge Trifkovic’s new book
The Sword of the Prophet: A Politically-Incorrect Guide to Islam
One of the good things one can truthfully say about Islam is that there has never been any love lost between Moslems and Marxists.
Sadly, the opposite end of the totalitarian political spectrum is quite another matter. SS chief Heinrich Himmler was known to remark that he regretted that Germany had adopted Christianity, rather than “warlike” Islam, as its religion, and there is a disturbing amount of twisted but very real logic in his remark.
3) I am personal friends and blogging buddies with David P. Militant gay Jew and lover of Sondheim musicals. Loves action movies.
2) I’m personal friends and blogging buddies with Scott. Who is a fun gay jew….Hmm I’m just now realizing that I only know gay jews, but they’re the best jews anyway.
1) The Holocaust? I don’t think JESUS CHRIST existed! You can’t get more Jewy than that now can you?
I thought I would quote Bin Laden from his “Letter to America”Just so no one would think I pulled all this out of my ass.
http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/11-24-2002-30919.asp
Reading the whole letter is a must in order for anyone to have a clear perspective as to exactly what we are fighting. But I thought I would toss in quotes as bait
OBL:” The creation of Israel is a crime which must be erased. Each and every person whose hands have become polluted in the contribution towards this crime must pay its*price, and pay for it heavily. “
He wants to convert the whole world to Islam !
OBL:”(Q2) As for the second question that we want to answer: What are we calling you to, and what do we want from you?
(1) The first thing that we are calling you to is Islam.
(a) The religion of the Unification of God; of freedom from associating partners with Him, and rejection of this; of complete love of Him, the Exalted; of complete submission to His Laws; and of the discarding of all the opinions, orders, theories and religions which contradict with the religion He sent down to His Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). Islam is the religion of all the prophets, and makes no distinction between them – peace be upon them all.
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“At first glance anyone would think RR is just stupid. But after participating for a while you’ll find out that its very witty, intelligent and intriguing in many ways.”
No, we’re just stupid. After participating for a while, one’s IQ drops dramatically, and we seem smarter. It’s science.
“His friends own this blog that he insulted me on, and so what if they are Jewish”
Why does everyone assume I’m Jewish?
I wasnt saying you were jewish. It was a “so what if they are?”
I should of said “so what if they were or werent”
Bagel;
“After participating for a while, one’s IQ drops dramatically”
Well I’m coming back for more.
Holy fucking shit Mick, I can dress you up but I can’t take you out.
I do the taking out around here.
Good to see ya cap. How was your birthday ?
Didja git some ?
Thanks for the birthday wishes, I got more then I can handle and thank the good lord because after reading this post my head will be spinning for days.
What the fuck? I’m not sure if you’re a Latino Jew or you just want fuck an arrogant self centered fag up the ass.
And I hate when people form their opinions from other peoples opinions. Drives me fucking crazy.
or they don’t get all the information and then think they know it all.
That’s mostly why I don’t comment.
On a serious note.
If kids these days dont learn this shit its destined to happen in some form or manner.
Radical muslims are trying to re-eanact the whole thing on a different stage today.
If kids today saw how much the Holocaust and the Radical elements have in common they would understand our foriegn policies and the wars better.
And they wouldnt be so ignorant and think that their spiteful humor about the situation is funny.
This guy pissed me off the most hen he compared my mom and granma to his blotchy skinned relatives, and then lied all over his blog about most of it.
hes a fucking creep and he deserves some fucking heat.
hes a rabid fucking moonbat gone wild and he needs to be put down.
On serious note, you’re right. There are certain things that shouldn’t be ridiculed and that is one of them. I’m sorry you had to go through that and you’re right people need to be educated. Is that in our history books? I can’t remember learning that in school. I’m not sure, you know memory thing..
I’m not one to talk because I’m definitely going to hell, I make fun of everything and everyone on a certain level but I would NEVER say things to some one’s face especially after it was known that it hit a sore spot. He was wrong.
As a rule, you never, ever, ever seriously talk about some one’s mom, dude that’s just wrong.
I got a detention for a whole year for using the word “hate” in the 7th grade. My science teacher forbid us to say it in class and I thought I was a smart ass and challenged him, I lost.
I learned more that year, in science, about something I should of leaned else where.
I didnt learn about the Nazi/Radical Islam connection until after 911 when I started digging for answers.
Its scary if you read up on it in detail. The goals and methods are all too similar
hey Mick, I need an artichoke recipe. easy, I just want to steam them but don’t know what kind of seasoning to put in it. Every one that I’ve looked up just says to put lemon juice and olive oil in the water. do you have anything special.
Its hard for the seasoning to get into the art if you steam them. Its best to boil the water alone with the seasoning in it for about 1/2 hour first. This lets the oils from your lemon or garlic or whatever else you putin the water escape, gives the water some kick.
Personally I boil my arts right in the water with a cover.
I use;
1 whole lemon sliced thin
2 teaspoon salt
2 tespoon black pepper
1/2 teaspoon red pepper
1 teaspoon tabasco
1 teaspoon garlic
1 handfull thin sliced onion
3-4 tablespoons of olive oil.
Boil all that for about a 1/2 hour and then throw in your arts with a cover.
Sauces for dipping can be as simple as garlic lemon and butter.
Or you can go with a creamier one like some mayo with lemon or mayo with curry and pepper and lemon.
Or you can be a suburbanite diva and do the ranch thing
If you’re just gonna go with a clarified butter sauce you can try some rosemary or basil by simmering them in the butter for flavor. Low heat, dont burn the butter
When you commented about having really cool recipes I never thought I would ever use that information. so thanks. sounds good and I’m definitely using your recipe. All the ones I’ve seen just use lemons and olive oil how boring. I’ll let you know how they turn out. I’m going to start them soon.
Exellent.
Kevin said recently;
” I’m going to be a big man too and apologize for having wished that the Nazis had killed his family. I’m not sure who you are Micky2, if your family even exists, or whether they went through the holocaust, but my aim wasn’t to hurt anyone’s feelings.
I also apologize for having laughed at Bush because I hadn’t realized that:
“what the Nazis did is exactly what Radical Islam wants today. So I think its safe to say that Bush is and was reflecting on the fact that the war we are fighting today is a repeat of history, but with different players. If Kevin and his butthole surfing mousketeers were aware of how the Nazi doctrine is identical to that of Muslim extremists they to might crack a tear when seeing the reminder of 6 million dead people. As a matter of fact radical Islam got its floor plan and doctrine directly from the Nazis.
I was ready to endorse the Nazi party until this came to light, and what I learned from micky and everyone at Ration Reality is that the Nazis were very bad people who killed a lot of other people.
I had no idea.”
Holy crap. How did I miss all this. You know I can’t stand Kevin from his remarks about fat chicks. Remember that? He’s just a guy that comments there and probably a friend of Bagel’s to create that crazy banter that usually happens there. I so dig that Web site! They are brilliant. But yea, no matter if that Kevin is real, he really chaps my hide regardless…
Micky. You really get ruffled up with folks don’t you? You wife must have some fun in the bedroom with you!!
This is what I do on blogs. I’m an attack dog. A lot of bloggers have told me this is what I do best. Bloggers have even asked me to come to their site and get rid of or humiliate the pests and trolls. I find the bullshit and inconsistancies and expose them.
Since I lost my right to vote I do what I can to make a difference.
If I only change one mind before the election I’ve done my job.
I also feel its some ones responsability to not let people get away with lies and sheer bullshit.
On my own time I’m one of the most kick back guys you’ll ever meet.
I’m probably a lot more liberal than anything you,ve seen would lead you to believe.
But I am all about securing our nation and letting folks know as much of the truth as I can dig up’ If Kevin or anyone else had any knowledge of how close Radical Islam is and the Nazi doctrine they would take the GWOT a little more seriously and not make assinine statements about the holocaust either.
I must mention that since I wrote this kevin did apologize.
But when it comes to blogging politics I get viscious.
When someone claims something as true I do my best to make sure it is.
I fucking hate those who mislead us and arent forthcoming with agendas or ulterior motives.
All the lies about Bush and 911 and Katrina and whatever need to be addressed.
My wife gets spoiled. I’m a womans libbers dream.
We do the Kamasutra, showers and …
She gets her coffe in bed every morning and a short rub down. I work out of the house at my own schedule and do all the cooking cleaning and whatever other domestic chores. I do everything. All she does is her 9 to 5 and thats all she should have to do.
She works hard.
Kevin is real
Ha! He’s real.
He’s just a guy that comments there
He’s also a contributing writer. Unfortunately, my editing prerogative doesn’t extend to commentary.
I so dig that Web site!
We dig you too! And have missed you like crazy!
Thank God for you bagel.
Theres entirely too much editing going on in the world.