Kill a Killa

Recently I got a request from one of my new visitors who goes by the name Stiletto. If you ever feel like going to a black leather pajama party, heres your ticket http://eatmyfuckingstilettos.wordpress.com/

I will indulge her request only because I am flattered that such a witty , smart and fucking gorgeous woman would ask me to do anything for her.

Stiletto asked if I would look into the ” Tookie Williams ” scenario. After looking into it , “scenario” is one of the nicest terms I could come up with for now.

The facts have been in on this case for quite a while. Since Williams has been convicted and sentenced we wont beat that subject around anymore. So lets beat up on the other idiots involved in this. Hollywood.  (to be continued under pics)

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Stanley Tookie Williams is the co-founder of one of the most violent street gangs in California – The Crips –                   

                  

Tookie Williams was convicted of the 1979 murders of four people in two separate robberies — convenience store worker Albert Owens, 26; and motel owners Yen-I Yang, 76; Tsai-Shai Yang, 63; and their daughter Yee-Chen Lin, 43. Williams has been on death row since 1981; He has consistently maintained his innocence of all four killings (hardly makes him unique.) There’s no dramatic new DNA evidence or anything like that to cast doubt on his guilt. I will admit , Tookie has come a long way since then. He was even nominated for  Nobel Peace Prize in 2000. ( Wonder what Al Gore did to deserve his?)

The case had become one of the nation’s biggest death-row cause celebres in decades, with Hollywood stars and capital punishment foes arguing that Williams, 51, had made amends in prison by writing children’s books about the dangers of gangs.

Hmmm.  If I ever get locked up again, remind me to write a book on the dangers of drugs and stupidity. Maybe child molesters could write books on the dangers of having an adult mans penis shoved up a childs rear and get out early ?

Tsai Chai Yang

 

Maybe the book will help fix this.  ( Ye-Chen Lin ) 

Albert Owens

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After seeing these photos, I dont give a fuck what Williams has done since, I’ll explain later because I want to pay attention to the fucking idiotic bleeding heart moonbat lefturds in Hollywood that have little or any other worthy causes to worry about besides some fucking supposedly redeemed asshole.  Hollywood glamorizes the damnedest things. And hey ! That’s alright, thats what hollywood does. But since when should it be allowed to glamorize the thought of letting a four time murderer out on the street ? Or letting him live ?  But Williams is  not just any murderer, three of these murders were racially motivated ( I hate saying hate crime, its just stooopid) I,ve been their, done that. And I know that in South central LA. Asians and Blacks are like oil and water. Most crimes are committed out of ignorance, not hatred. Ignorance of morals, ethics education and self purpose.

What does make him special, according to his supporters, is that he has been so lavishly repentant about the culture of violence he helped create. … Of course, there are hundreds of other men on death row who repent of their crimes and would appreciate a little executive clemency, but they don’t have movie stars pleading their cases. Oh, and also lacking a publicity machine are the four people Williams was convicted of killing. ( I’ll bet no one knows their names off the top of their head)

I hardly think the lives of three innocent shop owners who were most likely immigrants (legal) trying to get their footing in this country is a fair trade off for the life of Tookie and maybe what was in the register. I haven’t bothered to investigate the motive , it doesn’t matter.

But the moonbats think otherwise. Here’s the line up.    

 Snoop Dogg, Bianca Jagger,  Jesse Jackson, Margaret Cho, Mike Farrell, Jason Alexander, Laurence Fishburne, Danny Glover, Anjelica Huston, Bonnie Raitt, Tim Robbins, Susan Sarandon, and Noah Wyle.

There’s two things pushing this parade of idiots. Those who wish to abolish the death penalty, and some vanity driven agenda to show the rest of the world just how stupid we are for allowing just punishment to take place by a bunch who seem to think they have cornered the market on right and wrong.  They want to save the life of a four time murderer , but have we ever seen any of these morons in an anti abortion rally ? You’re more likely to see them calling Bush a murderer and asking that he be tried at the Hague and hung. They will defend the bastards who are shooting at our men and women in Iraq and Afghanistan by insisting they get the same treatment and rights as Americans. Even going as far as to call them “freedom fighters” These are the same miscreants that want to shut down Guantanamo bay and bring  all the enemy combatents to US federal courts proceedings instead where they can be looked at as poor unfortunates who just need a hug and a kiss and some Hollywood rehab , just as in the case with Williams

Lets go down the list.

 Snoop Dogg,  I have this gut feeling that him and Tookie have met before

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Bianca Jagger,  the first wife of Rolling Stones singer Mick Jagger said; “The re-election of George W. Bush as U.S. president would threaten world peace,. ‘I think President Bush is in my view, if I may say so, the most dangerous man in power today,’ ( She forgot about Kim Jung, Ahmajinidad and Bin Laden) Hmm.

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Jesse Jackson,  1/19/01 Rev. Jesse Jackson withdrew from public view at an important hour for the civil rights movement Thursday after disclosing that he had an extramarital affair that resulted in the birth of a daughter a year and a half ago.

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The Rev. Jesse Jackson said Saturday his Rainbow/Push Coalition will pay the college tuition of a woman who told police she was raped by members of Duke University’s men’s lacrosse team while working as a stripper — no matter the outcome of the case. So, you want a college scholarship? You got it. And you don’t even need to study hard and get good grades so long as you can make a false rape accusation.
All you parents, teachers, and guidance counselors: be sure to let high school students know how they can become eligible for a Rev. Jackson scholarship.
Jackson’s really helping change America, isn’t he?

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Margaret Cho, Fuck her. Shes stupid, ugly(not her fault) and one of the worst stand ups I’ve ever seen.

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Mike Farrell, The only reason he spent all those years on MASH was to portray how the left has to repair our soldiers only because conservatives put them there.  Farrell is counting on the fact that no one remembers another part he played one Friday night, 18 years ago in San Salvador. For 2  hours, Farrell, who played a surgeon on MASH, assisted Dr. Alejandro Sanchez in a real-life operation to restore movement to the arm of Nidia Diaz, a guerrilla leader of the Marxist Central American Worker’s Party. Just two months before, the group had claimed responsibility for the slaying of four U.S. Marines, two American businessmen and nine civilians. Diaz is still barred from entering the U.S. for her role in the murders. ( But we can spare the life of a 4 time murdering crips founder)

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Jason Alexander, I’m sorry, but this guy always looked like his dick was about as big as my thumb. I cant say for sure. But if that is the case, saving Tookies life might help. Honestly I dont know nor can I find anything really stupid to pin on this guy. But I do know that after Michael Richards went on his “nigger,nigger” rant Jesse Jackson called for a boycott on all Seinfeld episodes. Can any one say” Jason Alexanders residual royalties?”

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Laurence Fishburne, This has got to be about all the injustices put on blacks because of whites. I’m willing to bet. And dont call me racist. Don’t even go there. Its a logical assumption on the part of any black man defending a black man on death row that he was just a victim of a white oppressive capitalistic America. I might be wrong. I might be right. What would Bill Cosby say ?

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Danny Glover, Calls our president an asshole and gives Hugo Chavez, an oppresive dictator hugs and kisses. What else would you expect from this guy ?

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Anjelica Huston,  Theres not really any dirt on this lady. I always thought she was a class act. Until now.

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 Bonnie Raitt, Raitt has volunteered for Bread and Roses, an organisation which provides free live entertainment to people who live in institutions or are otherwise excluded from society. “This is a community that deserves to have music,” Raitt continued. “I think spiritually and personally it has a transformative effect on both the artist and the people that we’re playing for.

” Excuse me ! DESERVES ENTERTAINMENT ?”

” I,ve been to jail more times than the average guy and let me tell you I deserved to be punished, not sung to by Bonnie Raitt” Sure, most of my crimes were a result of my addictions. But hey ! You still have to do the time ! I opened a cops face with his handcuffs while in a drunken methamphetamine rage. Before sentencing the judge asked me if I had anything to say, I told him; ” I was high, but I have no reason and no excuse for what I did, and if you throw the book at me I wont cry about it.” ( Instead of year I got 3 months) I can say from experience that if you punish these guys while they’re in prison, it works better.

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Tim Robbins, Susan Sarandon,  They hate America, so they probably hate our justice system too. Sarandon and Robbins have routinely denied the war was fought in the name of democracy, and have signed their names to hyperbolic Bush-hating rhetoric casting the White House as a center of national and international oppression.

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Noah Wyle. ?  Must need notoriety. I suggest he get wasted, flash his beaver , crash his car and scream “I’M AN ADDICT!” and then check into a treatment center for OCDs that dont know what their compulsion is.

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I could say not to worry about these assholes supporting Williams because they are obviously so far out there that they should not be taken seriously. But I wont. They all need a good fucking kick in the head. Sure, their efforts are only going to be seen as noble by a small percentage of the country. But this is not their only endeavor that is hypocritical and capable of destroying the fabric of our society. They have the luxury of public exposure at the snap of their fingers and are able to use that power to convey messages to impressionable minds that one day will be running our country or hold positions that can effect policies for our future generations.

The message they are sending is this.

Its O.K. to do horrible things as long as you can work it out in the end. But here’s where the hypocrisy comes in. These are the same people who call Bush a murderer and  liar. They say he has blood on his hands. They want him impeached , and some like Rosie O’Donnel want him locked up for life. If Bush was convicted and was to display the same amount of remorse and regret as Williams would he be afforded the same sympathies and support. I doubt it.

Here’s some more hypocrisy. These are the same people who say they think that the war is a bloody, murderous, barbaric injustice to mankind. But they support the troops. What the fuck ? So what they’re saying to our troops is this. ” I think what you are doing is despicable and wrong but I’ll pat you on the back as you proceed. I don’t approve of the job or its motive, but hey ! Go get em ” How can you feel as if you’re being supported when no one appreciates or supports the job itself that you are doing ?

This parade of idiots are of course the poster children for liberal Hollywood. They are being nothing but myopic misanthropists  and self serving by using Tookie Williams case as a medium to convey to world what great sensitive and forgiving people they are.

I decided to do a little  psyche evaluation  on these guys, and here’s what I came up with.

1. At the most basic level, the liberal is an adolescent forever in search of a world without moral consequence.

2. Freedom from moral consequence can only be secured by a collectivist, totalitarian state.( FEAR OF MORAL CONSEQUENCES)

3. Liberals use moralistic tones and catch-phrases like “social justice”, but their only moral is the accumulation of power

4. Liberals ideologies tend inevitably towards world-wide totalitarianism. (FEAR OF THE ONE)

5. All non-sexual individual freedoms are despised by the liberal because they demand moral responsibility. (FEAR OF ACCOUNTABILITY)

6. The fundamental power struggle of the liberal is individual v. collective. The individual must be relieved of all power in favor of the collective. (FEAR OF THE ONE)

7. Individualism demands moral responsibility. Collectivism hopes to eliminate the need for moral responsibility.

8. The U.S. Constitution – specifically the individualistic Bill of Rights – is the enemy of the liberal.

9. The liberal despises the United States because it is the premier guarantor and promoter of individualism in the world.

10. All institutions and concerns – schools, environment, courts, etc. – serve no relevant purpose other than the promotion of collectivism.

11. Abortion is necessary to guarantee genital freedom and eliminate moral consequence.

12. The basis of psychology is the elimination of moral responsibility.

13. The liberal must create an atmosphere of crisis and fear to justify collectivist oppression.

14. Any religious person who believes or promotes moral consequence is the enemy of the liberal and must be oppressed. ( YOU FEAR A GOD YOU SAY DOES NOT EXIST)

15. Despite decades of spectacular failure, the liberal clings to the collectivist dream because it is far more than a theory of government. It is a religion.

17. The liberal seeks to dominate any institution which can weaken or destroy individual parental rights – public schools, child abuse agencies, pediatric associations, etc.. (FEAR OF INDIVIDUAL THOUGHT)

18. The liberal applauds the imprisoning of homeschooling parents who dare to raise their children outside the control of collectivist public schools. (FEAR OF LOOSING A MEMBER OF THE BORG)

19. Private ownership of guns is the single greatest symbol of individual power, and therefore despised. (SCARED SOMEONE IS GOING TO SHOOT THEM, AND THEY SHOULD BE)

20. All individual freedoms demand the responsible behaviour of the individual, and therefore demand a moral code. Liberals despise freedom because they despise morality.

21. The liberal loves Bill Clinton because of who he is, not in spite of who he is.

22. The liberal despises national sovereignty which protects individual freedoms.

23. The liberal promotes international governments (UN, EU, etc.) which seek to destroy individualism protected by sovereign states.

24. The liberal fears any hint of individualism in any part of the world, and is obsessed with the centralized control of all human activity and thought.

25. “Multi-cultural-ism” is the code world for a single, oppressive, collectivist culture.

26. Liberals speak often of tolerance, but only tolerate liberals.

27. The liberal seeks to criminalize any speech which promotes morality or individualism as “hate speech”.

28. Environmentalists lie as a matter of course.

29. The liberal’s only method of debate is to insult and discredit anyone who dares to disagree.

30. When possible, liberals oppress anyone who questions their beliefs.

31. Liberals despise all innocence – especially the innocence of a child.

32. Liberals seek the sexualization of children and the normalization of pedophilia, all in the pursuit of genital freedom.

33. In the liberal mind, your freedom is their oppression.

34. Private property and individual wealth is integral to individualism, and the enemy of the liberal.

35. The liberal hates you.

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36. The liberal seeks to replace a moral world view with an emotional world view.

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37. The liberal typically chooses a career which produces nothing of value – lawyer, bureaucrat, “activist”, etc. – and uses government to extract the wealth of others.

38. Liberal programs enrich liberals and do little to help the poor.

39. The liberal despises masculinity as a symbol of individual power.

40. Feminists groups are about lesbianism and socialism, not equal rights for women.

41. Liberals are perfectly willing to destroy you financially, remove your children, and imprison you for what you believe.

42. Liberals fear technology and change – because neither can be centrally controlled.

43. Liberals are not obsessed with sex, but with promiscuity. Promiscuity is the dominate theme of the liberal media culture.

44. Liberals despise the suburbs as a manifestation of individual prosperity, private property ownership, and the family.

45. Liberals despise marriage and family because they are institutions which frown on promiscuity.

46. Liberals are never satisfied with the power they have gained over the lives of individuals – they must control every thought and detail of human activity.

47. Liberals seek to control public schools, and force all children into them, in order to foster promiscuity and collectivist ideology in children.

48. Other diseases kill millions more, but liberals are obsessed with Aids because it is a moral consequence of promiscuity.

49. Liberals are more committed than conservatives because their politics is also their religion.

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50. Liberal activities are all about ego – to demonstrate “I care more than you do” without really helping anyone.

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51. Whenever a liberal expresses concern “for the children”, they are using and targeting children to expand promiscuity, collectivism, and their own pocketbooks and egos.

52. Because collectivist politics is their only morality, liberals have no problem with deceit, oppression, or violence in their pursuit of collectivism.

53. Liberals are elitests who exempt themselves from the oppressive rules they impose on the general population.

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54. Liberals howl if a transvestite or convicted felon is even slightly offended, but openly bash Christians.

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55. Liberals dream of a return to a centralized, 1940’s urban environment. We all ride the bus from a small, dirty, big city apartment to an 8-5 union job.

56. Liberals believe that wealth is static – anyone who makes money must be stealing it from someone else.

57. Liberals claim to be against violence, but makes excuses for liberals like Castro who torture political dissidents.

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58. Liberals have enormous compassion for criminal predators, but little for the victims.

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59. In the liberal world, all problems stem from individualism, and all solutions are collective.

60. Liberals believe that passing religious values to children is a form of child abuse

As a result of my past involvements in drugs and alcohol I had destroyed my own and a couple of lives in the process, more than once or twice in the course of about 30 years. I stole, I lied, I physically and mentally hurt people including the ones I love. I almost lost my house and my marriage. Hell, I even killed myself once for about a minute.  Every-time I got back on-top, I fucked it up. This time I kept my nose clean for 15 years.

My point is this. Some things can be fixed and replaced with hard work and alot of amends in the form of actual tangible results. I did my time. I payed back what I stole and worked hard to regain trust in those I hurt. But we still must pay for our crimes. And what Williams did is only payable one way, the way I see it.

Take a second and scroll back to the top and look at whats left of Ye-Chen lins face. Now imagine that being the one  single most important and loved person in your life. Your Mother, your sister, your daughter. A lifetime in prison says nothing to that. But giving your life up to execution in my opinion is as close as you can get to saying your sorry. All the kids books and self righteous speechs on the evils of gang life dont even come close. And quite frankly. Its an insult to the victims and their family, and our intelligence.

Tookie Williams has never admitted or taken responsibility for what he has done. I have studied this case in the last day and in all my searches I found that he is being the center of focus, and not the 4 people he killed. Which afterwards he  then bragged to his buddies about how they squirrmed and begged for their lives .I will not glorify his existence anymore with any run down of his history.

He was a fucking punk who thought he could hustle everybody one more time.

It took nearly a half-hour to prepare Williams for execution. Then he appeared to stop breathing just moments after a prison official read the death warrant.

He was pronounced dead at 12:35 a.m. Tuesday.

See Ya !

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I would rather think of everyone as generally smart and nice, and be dissapointed sometimes.

As opposed to thinking they are all idiots and be happy all the time.

Those pesky little things called facts.

 

In recent months I’ve had a fair amount of debates with disengenuous democrats and liberals on everything from the war on terror to Iraq, health care and gerbil warming. I have grown incresingly tired of  repeatedly putting together this concert of info time and time again. So what I’ve decided to do is put together and keep in place this list of facts that I have discoverd in my searchs to counter my past and future opponents claims. 

Whats most discouraging to find is that the facts I’ve dug up are not radical view points or facts that have been skewed by any radical agenda. These are all facts that are verifiable by reliable, believable and sane sources.

Too often  in our mainstream media ( which by all reliable accounts is dominated by a leftist bias) we see news that is confirmed and accepted by the general public only because of the sheer amount of times and the length of exposure the story gets. Misery, blood, hype, overdramatizations and sexed up presentations sell well.

 I’m going to present this post in a timeline that “I” consider relevant. Not so that it would presented in any bias form but because these will simply be the issues that have stood out the most since the war in Iraq began in regards to reference as important. I am a conservative but by all means the truth must be told once in a while if not always.

I’m going to begin this expose` with the Iraq war. I guess one of the first anti war activities lauched was that of the “human sheilds” I think after being asked to gaurd only what the Iraqi government thought was worth gaurding they decided they didnt want get their asses blown sky hi as opposed to standing and making a point, so they  dug out back to England. (thats my interpretation )

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/03/02/wshiel02.xml&sSheet=/news/2003/03/02/ixnewstop.html 

Human shield Britons quit Baghdad

Almost all of the first British “human shields” to go to Iraq were on their way home last night after deciding that their much-heralded task was now too dangerous.

 
Godfrey Meynell [centre] with other human shields at Baghdad South power station

Two red double-decker buses, which symbolised the hopes of anti-war activists when they arrived to a fanfare of publicity a fortnight ago, slipped quietly out of Baghdad on the long journey back to Britain.

Nine of the original 11 activists decided to pull out after being given an ultimatum by Iraqi officials to station themselves at targets likely to be bombed in a war or leave the country. Among those departing last night was 68-year-old Godfrey Meynell, a former High Sheriff of Derbyshire, who admitted that he was leaving out of “cold fear”. He had been summoned, along with 200 other shields from all over the world, to a meeting at a Baghdad hotel yesterday morning.

 

Chronology

Human shields black bus, 25 January, 2003

Human shields black bus, 25 January, 2003 (Looks like a big hurse to me)

Kenneth O'Keefe, one of the primary organisers of the event

Kenneth O’Keefe, one of the primary organisers of the event

“In December 2002 a group of dedicated anti-war activists gathered in London and set out a plan to launch a new form of non-violent direct action. Frustrated that traditional forms of protest were ineffective, they developed the concept of the Human Shield Movement and on January 25, 2003 a group of 50 volunteers left London and headed for Baghdad with the intention of acting as human shields. The convoy travelled through Europe and Turkey by bus to pick up like-minded people along the way, totalling roughly 75 people. It has been estimated that 200 to 500 people eventually made their way into Iraq before the U.S. invasion in March.”

“Upon reaching Baghdad, a strategy was formed on the assumption that there would not be enough human shields to avert an invasion. This was to involve the voluntary deployment of activists to strategic locations throughout Baghdad, and possibly Basra, in an effort to avert the bombing of those locations. There was much internal debate about which locations were to be chosen.”

Human shields greeted as they cross the border into Iraq, 15 February, 2003

Human shields greeted as they cross the border into Iraq, 15 February, 2003

“Eventually volunteers deployed to Al Daura Electrical Plant, Baghdad South Electrical Plant, 7th April Water Treatment Plant, Al Daura Water Treatment Plant, Tejio Food Silo, Al Daura Oil Refinery and Al Mamun Telecommunications Facility.”

“During these deployments a small group of volunteers led by Gordon Sloan of New Zealand took on the job of vetting sites to ensure they were not in close vicinity to military facilities. This was to be the cause of some conflict with their Iraqi host, Dr. Abdul Razak al-Hashimi, Saddam Hussein‘s spokesman during the first Gulf War, and head of the Friendship, Peace and Solidarity organisation which was hosting the activists, under the authority of the Baathist government.”

“With an invasion imminent, Hashimi became frustrated by Sloan’s explorations, called a meeting, and asked the activists to deploy to sites or leave Iraq. Hashimi’s meeting is said by some of the leading volunteers to have been a costly political mistake. It was the trigger of much anxiety among the volunteers and negative reporting in the media, including mis-reports that activists were being forced to deploy to military sites.  It was also at this point that some of the British volunteers were to return to London along with the two double-decker red buses and their owner, which were originally meant to have left soon after arrival.”

“The paranoia that rose up around Hashimi’s announcement and the reports that the buses were leaving Iraq slowed the influx of activists into Iraq, and caused some of those already there to leave Iraq, believing they had lost credibility through Hashimi’s actions. The Iraqi authorities, on the other hand, saw Kenneth O’Keefe, Sloan, and other organisers as constantly challenging Hashimi’s authority and being deliberately disruptive, and that some would-be shields were taking too long to deploy to sites. Five of the ‘trouble makers’ were then asked to leave the country.”

“Many activists stayed on, however, and continued to shield the chosen sites. It is claimed that eighty human shields stayed in the Baghdad area throughout the bombing campaign.”

 Analysis and effects of the human shields

Human shields meeting in Iraq, 1 March, 2003, at the Palestine Hotel in Baghdad, Iraq

Human shields meeting in Iraq, 1 March, 2003, at the Palestine Hotel in Baghdad, Iraq

“On February 26, 2003, Senior CNN Pentagon Correspondent, Jamie McIntyre, commented that the “Pentagon says they will try to work around human shields” as long as they were not deployed to military sites. Of all the shielded sites, only one—arguably a legitimate target under the Geneva Conventions—was eventually bombed, the Al Mamun Telecommunications Facility, one day after the human shields pulled out of it.”

“Article 51 of the Geneva Conventions, “Protocol Additional to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949 (Protocol 1),” appears to prohibit civilians such as human shields from being present, “to render certain points or areas immune from military operations, in particular in attempts to shield military objectives from attacks or to shield, favour or impede military operations,” however, Article 52 specifically prohibits attacking civilian infrastructure unless it is of military value, and Article 54 specifically prohibits attacking food and water equipment, unless it is of military value and does not cause civilians to starve or be forced to move.”

“For violating a U.S. prewar travel ban, human shields from the U.S. faced fines, loss of retirement benefits, and/or imprisonment. On the day after the departure of the human shield convoy, White House Chief of Staff, Andrew Card, released a statement condemning the action and Fox News reported that U.S. leaders were considering prosecuting U.S. human shields for war crimes.”

 Criticisms

“The Human Shield action was criticised for what many saw as being an overt act of aiding Saddam Hussein’s regime. Charges of the shields being “dupes” and “useful idiots” for Saddam were widespread in the U.S. The human shields countered that while various governments around the globe carry out acts of aggression, the human shield action saw fit to defend against this one.”

The botom line is this. The Iraqi government wanted these guys to put themselves in front of targets they knew we were going to nail.

In the gulf war of  1991 humans shields organizations claimed war crimes against the US for bombing civilian utilities such as food silos, pharmaceutical plants and food processing plants. What the human shields failed to mention was that the Iraqi military was concealing Iraqi soldiers inside these institutions. This same tactic was used by both parties in the initial invasion of 93.

                                  ” Misson Accomplished ”

When that banner went up the media was never really fair in explaining the true message that it carried. And the media proceeded to beat the crap out of Bush on this one , totally misconstruing the whole message. Leading just about every new organizations top anchors to ask; ‘Is the mission truly accomplished?” without ever giving proper description to what the mission actually was supposed to be.

Also , note the caption inside this photo ” How Bush misjudged the task of fixing Iraq” http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1101031006-490595,00.html    The article was written in Sept/2003. Only 6 months after the initial invasion.


The White House said on October 29, 2003 that it had helped with the production of a ‘Mission Accomplished’ banner as a backdrop for President George W. Bush’s speech onboard the USS Abraham Lincoln to declare combat operations over in Iraq. This file photo shows Bush delivering a speech to crew aboard the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln, as the carrier steamed toward San Diego, California on May 1, 2003. (Larry 

I’m sure we’ve all heard the numerous criticisms surrounding that statement but some were done on a very sly note, such as the caption under the photo above. It only says ” combat operations over in Iraq”. See the rest of the story here >  http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/1030-06.htm

 Does anyone really believe that Bush was telling us the war was over ?  What it meant was that the Iraqi Government had been overthrown, that was the mission ! And that major combat engagement in itself was over.  Instead of offering support, morons like John Kerry took it as an opportunity to only bolster his perceived righteousness and campaign platform. And the media was only too happy to run with it. As

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“Landing on an aircraft carrier and saying ‘mission accomplished’ didn’t end a war, and standing in the Rose Garden and stating that ‘Iraq is a dangerous place’ does nothing to make American troops safer,” Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts said in a written statement Tuesday.

 

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John Kerry was disingenuous in this statement. No one in Bushs cabinet said the mission ended the war and no one said the troops were any safer. Wouldn’t it be nice if there was a war where all the combatants were guaranteed safety ?

From Dana Bash
CNN Washington Bureau
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/1030-06.htm“Bush offered the explanation after being asked whether his speech declaring an end to major combat in Iraq under the “Mission Accomplished” banner was premature, given that U.S. casualties in Iraq since then have surpassed those before it. ““During the speech in May, Bush said, “The battle of Iraq is one victory in a war on terror that began on September 11, 2001, and still goes on.”Cmdr. Conrad Chun, a Navy spokesman, defended the president’s assertion.“The banner was a Navy idea, the ship’s idea,” Chun said.“The banner signified the successful completion of the ship’s deployment,” he said, noting the Abraham Lincoln was deployed 290 days, longer than any other nuclear-powered aircraft carrier in history. “Hopefully this will give some of you out there a little better perspective on this event and the misconceptions behind it. Now, lets move on to the oh so tiresome oil accusation.If you seriously belive we did it just for the oil, the list below will no doubt be bothersome for you.As a matter of fact Iraq’s oil is the base of its sovereignty , and the reason its government cant get its shit together is because they cant decide how to divide the revenues from ” THEIR” oil. Besides that it would of been a hell of a lot cheaper just to steal it or buy it. Besides that, after the Gulf war we could of applied sanctions that would of steered the oil our way.http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Articles/11Myths.htm#4

“There are two flavors to this argument.  The first was popular before the war, and held that the United States would invade Iraq and take the oil.  Given that this didn’t happen, and that the Americans are helping to rebuild Iraq (against insurgent attempts to thwart the process by destroying pipelines and terrorizing the population), this is no longer believed by anyone except the most hopeless anti-American conspiracy nuts.”

“The more reasonable version of the argument is that Americas only interest in Iraq is to see that the country’s oil reaches the international market.  The problem with this theory is that the only thing keeping Iraqi oil off the market prior to the war was American-supported sanctions. “

 

“The sanctions wouldn’t have been there in the first place if Americans were only interested in oil.”  “Nor would America have gone to war over oil, since it would have been far easier to simply drop the sanctions if oil was really the issue.”

“As it turns out, the only people selling their souls for oil were the European opportunists, such as George Galloway, who were paid millions in oil allotments by Saddam to moralize against the war.  Fortunately for them, they aren’t American, therefore no one in Europe really cares.”

Bush lied in order to go to war. And George Washingtons teeth were made out of wood.

June 26, 1993 – Missile attack launched in retaliation against Iraqi plot to assassinate President Bush.  ( Clinton rattling his pocket knife)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/717924.stm
Tuesday, 18 April, 2000, 13:19 GMT 14:19 UK
Iraqi rights abuses condemned

The Iraqi people suffer “all-pervasive oppression”

The United Nations has strongly condemned Iraq for its “systematic, widespread and extremely grave violations” of human rights.
The UN Commission on Human Rights adopted a European Union-sponsored resolution criticising Baghdad’s “all-pervasive repression and oppression sustained by broad-based discrimination and widespread terror”.

Thirty-two of the 53 Commission members voted in favour of the motion, with the remainder – including China and Russia – abstaining.

The resolution also condemned Iraq’s widespread and arbitrary use of the death penalty and its suppression of freedom of expression.

http://www.worldpress.org/specials/iraq/

“On Feb. 5, U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell came before the United Nations Security Council and laid out the Bush administration’s case against Iraq. As a hushed chamber listened intently, Secretary Powell detailed a web of evidence against Saddam Hussein’s regime.”

Powell’s argument could be divided into two main tracks. The first centered on the premise that Iraq had to face the penalties for having flouted numerous Security Council resolutions. “Last Nov. 8, this council passed Resolution 1441 by a unanimous vote,” the secretary said. “The purpose of that resolution was to disarm Iraq of its weapons of mass destruction. Iraq had already been found guilty of material breach of its obligations, stretching back over 16 previous resolutions and 12 years.”

“Iraq has now placed itself in danger of the serious consequences called for in U.N. Resolution 1441. And this body places itself in danger of irrelevance if it allows Iraq to continue to defy its will without responding effectively and immediately.”

While the Security Council has passed a series of resolutions concerning Iraq over the past 12 years, only one explicitly authorized the use of force. Resolution 678, passed on Nov. 29, 1990, authorized member states to “use all necessary means to uphold and implement Resolution 660 (1990) and all subsequent relevant resolutions and to restore international peace and security in the area.”

April 16 2003.
Saddam was found to be violating oil for food programs by selling the food received in exchange for oil for cash. His country was starving so he could build anther mansion/palace.
This was a violation of peace treaties enacted after the first gulf war, it is also an act of war and justification for disbanding the Iraqi leadership.

http://shotsacrossthebow.com/archives/001591.html
More Iraqi violations…
found here.

Before the war, Syria was said to be receiving as much as 200,000 b/d of oil through the pipeline, paying as much as $1 billion/year to Iraq, making it the single largest source of revenue for Baghdad outside the UN’s oil-for-aid program.

But the US action put an end to that arrangement, ending Washington’s formerly benign policy towards Syria’s illicit imports of Iraqi oil.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1927537/posts

Posted on 11/18/2007 9:15:32 AM PST by Son House

Iraqi Firings: Since 2000, Iraqi forces have fired on U.S. and British pilots 1,600 times. In 2002, Iraqi forces fired on U.S. and British pilots406 times. Since September 18, just hours after Saddam promised to “allow the return of the United Nations inspectors without conditions” and expressed his desire “to remove any doubts that Iraq still possesses weapons of mass destruction,”

1. Elected Democrats like Reid and Pelosi have no loyalty to the Current Military Personal who are in harms way, or they would make sure they have funding no matter what.
2. President Clinton had little loyalty to the Military, or Iraqi forces firing on U.S. Pilots would not have continued into the 2000.

3. Iran attacking our Military Personal is not acceptable.

Revisiting these historical facts should drive home the point that Saddam was in violation of the terms under which we spared him after liberating Kuwait — with or without WMDS and with our without ties to Al Qaeda.
Clinton would have been well justified to invade Iraq at just about any time during his second term — problem is Clinton lacked the courage to do what really needed to be done (and instead attacked Yugoslavia.)

No-Fly Zones, the Iraqi Violations.

Operation Northern Watch enforces the no-fly zone north of the 36th parallel in Iraq and monitors Iraqi compliance with UN Security Council resolutions 678, 687, and 688. The United States and the United Kingdom provide about 45 aircraft and more than 1,400 personnel to support the operation.

Operation Southern Watch enforces the no-fly zone south of the 33rd parallel in Iraq and monitors compliance with United Nations Security Council Resolutions 687, 688, and 949. The United States and the United Kingdom provide about 150 aircraft and 6,000 forces to support the operation.

All of the above were acts of war and aggression against the U.S.
Not even mentioning the thousands og human rights violations taking place on a daily basis.

All were violations of peace treaties enacted after the first gulf war/Kuwait invasion.

George W. Bush never claimed to have been to Iraq.  Rather, both he and Tony Blair deferred to intelligence reports and, at the same time, complained that their sources were limited by the fact that Saddam would not allow inspections under the agreements that ended the Gulf War; nor would he respect numerous UN mandates to allow unrestricted monitoring.

Though rare, there are some in the world who allege that Bush knew the reports were wrong (in some mysterious fashion), but went to war under false pretenses anyway.  This would certainly qualify as a lie, but it also defies common sense and probably speaks to the ignorance, delusion, or dishonesty of the person making such an assertion.

Saddam was also paying Palestinian suicide bombers families $25,000 ea. to go into Afghanistan and blow up Americans, this was most definitely an act of war. ———————————————–

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,48822,00.html

Saddam Pays 25K for Palestinian Bombers

Tuesday, March 26, 2002

 

Saddam Hussein is paying $25,000 to the relatives of Palestinian suicide bombers — a $15,000 raise much welcomed by the bombers’ families. In Tulkarm, one of the poorest towns on the West Bank, a member of the Palestinian Legislative Council handed out the checks from Saddam. The payments have been made for at least two years, but the amount has suddenly jumped up by $15,000 — a bonus for the families of martyrs, to reward those taking part in the escalating war against Israel. Paul McGeough, reporting from the West Bank, was the only foreign correspondent in the hall Monday night when a Palestinian official handed out the checks. McGeough’s story in today’s Sydney Morning Herald describes a very hellish twist on the Academy Awards: The men at the top table then opened Saddam’s checkbook and, as the names of 47 martyrs were called, family representatives went up to sign for checks written in U.S. dollars. (Story continues , click on the link )Below are some more obtrusive notes that never seem to hit the mainstream medis. Written in Dec 2006. Does anyone recall seeing this on your evening news ? But I’m sure you got a good shot of all the mourning mothers screaming over the body of their son that was killed by some insurgent, and I’ll bet you’ve seen your share of crying babies on  Baghdad sidewalks.

Thursday, December 21, 2006 ( almost a year ago )

List of Iraq successes

BDE3TACP on AOL posted this:

Since President Bush declared an end to major combat on May 1……(that was the “mission accomplished banner) The first battalion of the new Iraqi Army has graduated and is on active duty.
… Over 60,000 Iraqis now provide security to their fellow citizens.
… Nearly all of Iraq’s 400 courts are functioning.
… The Iraqi judiciary is fully independent.
.. On Monday, October 6, power generation hit 4,518 megawatts, exceeding the prewar average.
… All 22 universities and 43 technical institutes and colleges are open, as are nearly all primary and secondary schools.
… By October 1, Coalition forces had rehab-ed over 1,500 schools – 500 more than scheduled.
… Teachers earn from 12 to 25 times their former salaries.
… All 240 hospitals and more than 1200 clinics are open.
… Doctor’s salaries are at least eight times what they were under Saddam.
… Pharmaceutical distribution has gone from essentially nothing to 700 tons in May to a current total of 12,000 tons.
… The Coalition has helped administer over 22 million vaccination doses to Iraq’s children.
… A Coalition program has cleared over 14,000 kilometers of Iraq’s 27,000 kilometers of weed-choked canals which now irrigate tens of thousands of farms. This project has created jobs for more than 100,000 Iraqi men and women.
… We have restored over three-quarters of prewar telephone services and over two-thirds of the potable water production.
… There are 4,900 full-service telephone connections. We expect 50,000 by year-end.
… The wheels of commerce are turning. From bicycles to satellite dishes to cars and trucks, businesses are coming to life in all major cities and towns.
… 95 percent of all prewar bank customers have service and first-time customers are opening accounts daily.
… Iraqi banks are making loans to finance businesses.
… The central bank is fully independent.
… Iraq has one of the world’s most growth-oriented investment and banking laws.
… Iraq has a single, unified currency for the first time in 15 years.
… Satellite TV dishes are legal.
… Foreign journalists aren’t on 10-day visas paying mandatory and extortionate fees to the Ministry of Information for minders and other government spies.
… There is no Ministry of Information.
… There are more than 170 newspapers.
… You can buy satellite dishes on what seems like every street corner.
… Foreign journalists (and everyone else) are free to come and go.
… A nation that had not one single element — legislative, judicial or executive — of a representative government now does.
… In Baghdad alone residents have selected 88 advisory councils. Baghdad’s first democratic transfer of power in 35 years happened when the city council elected its new chairman.
… Today in Iraq chambers of commerce, business, school and professional organizations are electing their leaders all over the country.
… 25 ministers, selected by the most representative governing body in Iraq’s history, run the day-to-day business of government.
… The Iraqi government regularly participates in international events. Since July the Iraqi government has been represented in over two dozen international meetings, including those of the UN General Assembly, the Arab League, the World Bank and IMF and, today, the Islamic Conference Summit. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs today announced that it is reopening over 30 Iraqi embassies around the world.
… Shiva religious festivals that were all but banned, aren’t anymore.
… For the first time in 35 years, in Karbala thousands of Shiites celebrate the pilgrimage of the 12th Imam.
… The Coalition has completed over 13,000 reconstruction projects, large and small, as part of a strategic plan for the reconstruction of Iraq.
… Uday and Queasy are dead – and no longer feeding innocent Iraqis to the zoo lions, raping the young daughters of local leaders to force cooperation, torturing Iraq’s soccer players for losing games, or murdering critics.
… Children aren’t imprisoned or murdered when their parents disagree with the government.
… Political opponents aren’t imprisoned, tortured, executed, maimed, or forced to watch their families die for disagreeing with Saddam.
… Millions of long-suffering Iraqis no longer live in perpetual terror.
… Saudis will hold municipal elections.
… Qatar is reforming education to give more choices to parents.
… Jordan is accelerating market economic reforms.
… The Nobel Peace Prize was awarded for the first time to an Iranian
— A Muslim woman who speaks out with courage for human rights, for democracy and for peace.
.. Saddam is gone.
… Iraq is free.
….Terrorists are being drawn to an arena in which our military can kill or capture them
Sovereignty is restored to Iraq”

Since Gen. Patreaus gave his report to Congress on the results of the recent surge in forces completed in Sept of this year you cant help but see it all over the news. And I mean “ALL OVER!” By listening to Harry Reid in Sepy 2007 you would of not thought this at all.

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The war in Iraq “is lost” and a US troop surge is failing to bring peace to the country, the leader of the Democratic majority in the US Congress, Harry Reid, said Thursday.”I believe … that this war is lost, and this surge is not accomplishing anything, as is shown by the extreme violence in Iraq this week,” Reid told journalists.

 When CNN and the rest of the liberal media are showing success stories coming out of Iraq on a daily basis it means the its only so obvious even the most bias reporting cant hide it.. Below I will list links and testimonials from those who are actually their and didnt just here about this over the phone.

  • THE IRAQ SURGE:WHY IT’S WORKING‘I WALKED down the streets of Ramadi a few days ago, in a soft cap eating an ice cream with the mayor on one side of me and the police chief on the other,

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/03202007/postopinion/opedco… – 44k – Similar pages

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/03202007/postopinion/opedcolumnists/why_its_working_____opedcolumnists_gordon_cucullu.htm?page=0

  • NO ‘NIGHTMARE’

    NO ‘NIGHTMARE’. WHY ‘SURGE’ IS WORKING (The term “surge” is far too simplistic, as it implies simply throwing more forces at the problem, when Petraeus’

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/10232007/postopinion… – 41k – Similar pages

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/10232007/postopinion/opedcolumnists/no_nightmare.htm

  • Townhall.com::Shhhh… The Surge is Working::By Patrick Ruff…Early indications are that the troop surge into Baghdad is working. It hasn’t been reported on widely, but murders in Baghdad are down 70%, attacks are down

    http://www.townhall.com/columnists/PatrickRuffini/2007/… – 169k – Similar pages

    http://www.townhall.com/columnists/PatrickRuffini/2007/02/24/shhhh_the_surge_is_working

  • The ‘surge’ is working– Los Angeles TimesAs recently as a month ago, it appeared that Gen. David H. Petraeus and Ambassador Ryan Crocker would be running into a withering fusillade of rhetorical

    http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-boot8sep08,0,… – 40k – Similar pages

    http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-boot8sep08,0,1085443.story?coll=la-opinion-center

  • The Surge is Workingat HansMast.comThe Surge is Working. The Financial Times:. Violence in Iraq has fallen at a rate that has surprised military commanders and even one of the architects of
  • And as far as the bias one sided liberal media goes I feel I should include this story that displays how generals who have commanded in Iraq are incredibly disatisfied with the medias slanted portrayal of the situation in Iraq.
  • http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb-staff/2007/10/15/gen-sanchez-hits-biased-agenda-driven-coverage-iraq-war
  • Gen. Sanchez Hits Biased, Agenda-Driven Coverage of Iraq War

    By NB Staff | October 15, 2007 – 12:53 ET

    The former top U.S. military commander in Iraq, Army Lieutenant General Ricardo Sanchez, addressed the annual conference of Military Reporters and Editors on October 12. While his condemnations of what he called “a glaring and unfortunate display of incompetent strategic leadership” have been widely reported, his criticisms of the media’s Iraq coverage has received far less attention. Here is an excerpt of Sanchez’s speech:

    As all of you know I have a wide range of relationships and experiences with our nation’s military writers and editors. There are some in your ranks who I consider to be the epitome of journalistic professionalism — Joe Galloway, Thom Shanker, Sig Christensen, and John Burns immediately come to mind. They exemplify what America should demand of our journalists — tough reporting that relies upon integrity, objectivity and fairness to give accurate and thorough accounts that strengthen our freedom of the press and in turn our democracy.

    On the other hand, unfortunately, I have issued ultimatums to some of you for unscrupulous reporting that was solely focused on supporting your agenda and preconceived notions of what our military had done.

    I also refused to talk to the European Stars and Stripes for the last two years of my command in Germany for their extreme bias and single minded focus on Abu Ghraib.

    Let me review some of the descriptive phrases that have been used by some of you that have made my personal interfaces with the press corps difficult: “Dictatorial and somewhat dense,” “Not a strategic thought,” Liar, “Does not get it,” and The most inexperienced LtG.

    In some cases I have never even met you, yet you feel qualified to make character judgments that are communicated to the world. My experience is not unique and we can find other examples such as the treatment of Secretary [sic, FEMA Director Michael] Brown during [Hurricane] Katrina.

    This is the worst display of journalism imaginable by those of us that are bound by a strict value system of selfless service, honor and integrity. Almost invariably, my perception is that the sensationalistic value of these assessments is what provided the edge that you seek for self aggrandizement or to advance your individual quest for getting on the front page with your stories!

    As I understand it, your measure of worth is how many front-page stories you have written, and unfortunately some of you will compromise your integrity and display questionable ethics as you seek to keep America informed. This is much like the intelligence analysts whose effectiveness was measured by the number of intelligence reports he produced. For some, it seems that as long as you get a front page story there is little or no regard for the “collateral damage” you will cause. Personal reputations have no value and you report with total impunity and are rarely held accountable for unethical conduct.

    Given the near instantaneous ability to report actions on the ground, the responsibility to accurately and truthfully report takes on an unprecedented importance. The speculative and often uninformed initial reporting that characterizes our media appears to be rapidly becoming the standard of the industry. An Arab proverb states – “four things come not back: the spoken word, the spent arrow, the past, the neglected opportunity.” Once reported, your assessments become conventional wisdom and nearly impossible to change.

    Other major challenges are your willingness to be manipulated by “high level officials” who leak stories and by lawyers who use hyperbole to strengthen their arguments. Your unwillingness to accurately and prominently correct your mistakes and your agenda-driven biases contribute to this corrosive environment. All of these challenges combined create a media environment that does a tremendous disservice to America.

    Over the course of this war, tactically insignificant events have become strategic defeats for America because of the tremendous power and impact of the media and by extension you the journalist. In many cases the media has unjustly destroyed the individual reputations and careers of those involved. We realize that because of the near real-time reporting environment that you face it is difficult to report accurately. In my business one of our fundamental truths is that “the first report is always wrong.” Unfortunately, in your business “the first report” gives Americans who rely on the snippets of CNN, if you will, their “truths” and perspectives on an issue.

    As a corollary to this deadline-driven need to publish “initial impressions or observations” versus objective facts, there is an additional challenge for us who are the subject of your reporting. When you assume that you are correct and on the moral high ground on a story because we have not responded to questions you provided, it is the ultimate arrogance and distortion of ethics. One of your highly repected fellow journalists once told me that there are some amongst you who “feed from a pig’s trough.” If that is who I am dealing with then I will never respond otherwise we will both get dirty and the pig will love it. This does not mean that your story is accurate.

    I do not believe that this is what our forefathers intended. The code of ethics for the society of professional journalists states: “…public enlightenment is the forerunner of justice and the foundation of democracy. The duty of the journalist is to further those ends by seeking truth and providing a fair and comprehensive account of events and issues. Conscientious journalists from all media and specialties strive to serve the public with thoroughness and honesty. Professional integrity is the cornerstone of a journalist’s credibility.”

    The basic ethics of a journalist that calls for: 1) Seeking truth, 2) Providing fair and comprehensive account of events and issues, 3) Thoroughness and honesty.

    All are victims of the massive agenda-driven competition for economic or political supremacy. The death knell of your ethics has been enabled by your parent organizations who have chosen to align themselves with political agendas. What is clear to me is that you are perpetuating the corrosive partisan politics that is destroying our country and killing our service members who are at war.

    My assessment is that your profession, to some extent, has strayed from these ethical standards and allowed external agendas to manipulate what the American public sees on TV, what they read in our newspapers and what they see on the web. For some of you, just like some of our politicians, the truth is of little to no value if it does not fit your own pre-conceived notions, biases and agendas.

    It is astounding to me when I hear the vehement disagreement with the military’s forays into information operations that seek to disseminate the truth and inform the Iraqi people in order to counter our enemy’s blatant propaganda. As I assess various media entities, some are unquestionably engaged in political propaganda that is uncontrolled. There is no question in my mind that the strength our democracy and our freedoms remain linked to your ability to exercise freedom of the press — I adamantly support this basic foundation of our democracy and completely supported the embedding of media into our formations up until my last day in uniform. The issue is one of maintaining professional ethics and standards from within your institution. Military leaders must accept that these injustices will happen and whether they like what you print or not they must deal with you and enable you, if you are an ethical journalist.

    Finally, I will leave this subject with a question that we must ask ourselves: Who is responsible for maintaining the ethical standards of the profession in order to ensure that our democracy does not continue to be threatened by this dangerous shift away from your sacred duty of public enlightenment?

  • As you can see General Sanchez’s case is rock solid evidence that you just cant get a real story more than half the time.                     
  • And then theres Hollywood

  • Why are idiots like Rosie O’Donnel allowed to say on national TV that there are 600,000 Iraqis dead because we are the terrorists ? And get away with it ? And how many today believe this, still ?

  • Heres the facts,

  • See here>  http://www.iraqbodycount.org/database/

  • Documented civilian deaths from violence in Iraq compiled from numerous sources and then averaged out

    77,333 – 84,250

    Deaths in each week from 2003–2007 Deaths per day from vehicle bombsDeaths per day from vehicle bombs
    Deaths pre day from gunfire / executionsDeaths per day from gunfire / executions

    To be continued…